Episode Commentary

With the performance of each successive week showing poorer and poorer participation levels in the commentary sections, I've decided to try something new.

Centralized discussion.
The links in each episode recap entitled "Discussion" link directly to the comments area of this article. You can post either from this article or through the links in any of the recaps. All the comments will end up in the same place.

From here on, this will be the spot to come to comment on all the recaps.When I recap new episodes, I'll place a link at the bottom of each epsiode's article that will lead to this spot. Feel free to join the discussion.

For the sake of clarity, if you are going to leave a comment that relates to a specific episode, please use the following format at the beginning of your comment:

S.* Ep.** -

Like so:S.1 Ep.01 - Jack was a bad choice for leader. No one would have put McCoy in charge of the Enterprise.

This way, we'll have a clearer idea of the way your comment fits into the discussion.If you have a general comment, please feel free to post it without the episode reference.
I've also included all the links to all the recaps. Each link opens in its own window, leaving this area in the background, so you can reference anything I have previously posted.

Previous comments from the first half of season 1 are collected and posted in the article below, with each set of episode comments posted in a different colour for clarity.

Previous Comments

Episodes 01 & 02

chuts said...
When the pilot said the radio went out - what does that have to do with anybody "seeing" them? I understand not being able to communicate with the tower (or whoever) - but "they couldn't SEE us".

Does that make sence to anybody else?

May 27, 2006 11:47 PM


chuts said...
BTW
I'm reading the book "The Bad Twin". It is the manuscript that washed up on shore. Darling Cindy was traveling with her boyfriend Gary Troup. So, why was she flirting with Jack?

Does anybody know what happened to him? Is he confirmed dead or was he taken? And what happened to Cindy?

May 27, 2006 11:55 PM


Greybishop said...
Chuts -
I had similar thoughts about them not being "seen" when the radio went out.
Two posibilities come to mind.
1. The pilot DID have a concussion. Perhaps he just misspoke.
2. He could have been refering to both the radio and the plane's IFF (Identify Friend or Foe) transponder that broadcasts a signal that air traffic controllers see on their screens. Maybe.

May 28, 2006 4:22 AM


Jess said...
"After a quick, panicky run through the jungle, Jack finds himself on the beach amid a hellish tableau of airplane and human wreckage."

Good thing it wasn't Ana-Lucia who Jack first met, or she would have eventually noticed that he ran out of the jungle COMPLETELY DRY, just like Goodwin. Isn't that somewhat odd that Jack was thrown so far from everyone else?

May 28, 2006 10:13 AM


Jess said...
"Do we, or do we not, see the smoke monster for the first time just as the engine explodes?
Judge for yourself."

Now that is really interesting! I missed that when I watched the show on TV, but it's pretty clear here....

May 28, 2006 10:16 AM


Greybishop said...
Jess-
While Jack (and apparently Kate) emerged a strangely long distance from everyone else, none of the "Beachies" were in the water, so dry wouldn't be too suspicious...

May 28, 2006 11:27 AM


Greybishop said...
Jess -
The link is to an "enhanced" version. I watched it again to be sure that it wasn't more embellishment than enhancement and sure enough, even though it's not quite as vivid as the link portrays, it is there.

May 28, 2006 11:29 AM


Jess said...
"While Jack (and apparently Kate) emerged a strangely long distance from everyone else, none of the "Beachies" were in the water, so dry wouldn't be too suspicious..."

Oh, you're right. I didn't think about that. Sometimes I take things at face value when I shouldn't, and sometimes I read too much into things. I guess this is a case of the latter.

Anyway, I love having this site to come to. I'm like some of the others on EW, always read, rarely post. I think you'll see me on here fairly often, as I am definitely obsessed with LOST.

May 29, 2006 11:49 AM


Greybishop said...
Jess -
Drop by whenever the urge strikes. The more the merrier!

May 29, 2006 12:08 PM


chuts said...
Good point about the IFF. I don't know how these things work.

I also have knowledge of a flashback through the s1 bonus disk that the pilot's mother dated Bernard 20 years ago and he "knows" that physics are fake (as he talks to Clair in the airport). Since it has yet to come into play, I wasn't sure if we could be suspisous of him or not which is why his saying "they couldn't see us" made me wonder.

Did that make any sence?

May 30, 2006 12:23 AM


LOSTbean said...
Ok, so...it seems hard to speculate on some things from these 1st 2 episodes as we have come to the completion of season 2 and have a ~slight~ bit more information than when this all began, but let's talk about the monster. It seems as there is more than one? One stomps through the jungle, smashing palm trees like match sticks and eating pilots (well, not eating them...just chewing on them awhile and then spitting them out). Not in ep. 1 or 2 is the mcsmokey smoke smoke monster than can suck people (Locke) into holes or flash haunting pics in its "being," (Eko) or be perceived as the eye of the island and the most beautiful creature ever (Locke). Are these all one in the same? And why does the monster never bother the tailies (or botpp-back of the plane people, as I call them), and the others never seem to kidnap the fotpp (front of the plane people)? Ok-maybe I actually had a ~few~ questions all in one there...sorry! It may be hard to contain our questions and thoughts to just the 1st and 2nd episode, but it all does realte back to them.

May 30, 2006 1:25 PM


LOSTbean said...
hey chuts-where in VA do you live?

May 30, 2006 2:21 PM


Kat said...
Hi all, stopped in to say hi to all the Losties, who won't be repeating themselves like on ew.com!

GB - great recaps... I keep promising myself that I will be good and rewatch the episodes so I can add something useful besides bad grammar. ;) Also, so I can remember why this made me so crazy... I also think I will be reading into every little nuance like crazy... assuming that they fit into a neat little socket and are connected... it's insane to think that the writers thought of everything... especially when you have people like us tearing this stuff apart...

See, bad grammar, look at that run-on!

May 30, 2006 7:10 PM


chuts said...
LOSTbean
I live in Va Bch and just recently sold a copy of s1 to a man who's wife is nuts about Lost and is active on Lost posts sites.

I told him to tell her that chuts works at Borders. He laughed at me, but said he would relay the message.

Wouldn't be you by any chance would it?

May 30, 2006 9:56 PM


Greybishop said...
Makin' connections all over...

May 30, 2006 10:09 PM


chuts said...
Grey
As soon as your site went up, I sold 6 copies of s1 and I only work 2 to 3 days a week.

I think there may be a few of us here in Va Bch. I thought about you every time I sold one :}

May 30, 2006 10:12 PM


Greybishop said...
And you're telling people where to go to discuss it, I hope?

May 30, 2006 10:16 PM


chuts said...
Of course!

May 30, 2006 10:18 PM


chuts said...
Did I ever tell you that I looked up Lost chat sites one day and at the top of the page I found a link that included both our names on the search page?

I nearly fell out of my chair.

May 30, 2006 10:21 PM


Greybishop said...
Yeah, I remember that.
"So what are we doing tonight Greybishop?"
"Same thing we do every night, Chuts. Try to take over the internet."
;0)

May 30, 2006 10:27 PM


chuts said...
Greybishop
LOL! Are you think what I'm thinking...

May 30, 2006 10:58 PM


LOSTbean said...
hi chuts! i just saw you lived in VA, as do i, and i didn't know where. i am in in NOVA.

May 31, 2006 8:44 AM


Monica said...
Did anyone else notice that Rose would have been without oxygen for a LONG time before Jack got to her? By my count, it was 6 minutes from the opening of Jack's eye to Jack taking over the CPR reins from Boone. And I doubt this was done in real time!

Also - women, chime in if you agree - can we find Sawyer some kind of hair gel in his stash because as hot as he is, his shining moments of hotness are in the pilot!

May 31, 2006 10:08 AM


Monica said...
GB - Was it "Becky" that Kate said her friend's name was because I thought I heard "Beth"? But to be honest, I was pretty into my Chinese food while I watched these eps and could've misheard. And if I'm wrong, I missed a whole syllable and was even more into my Chinese than I thought. Not that it's relevant anyway - I just thought that if it was "Beth," we could add to the list of shortened versions of Elizabeth that we've seen so far.

May 31, 2006 10:12 AM


Monica said...
I forget at what point Jack said this exactly, but he said to Kate at one point: "You're not running now." I love how characters say something and don't realize just how many levels it works on.

May 31, 2006 10:14 AM


LOSTbean said...
monica-good catch on the oxygen depletion for rose. if it really was 6 minutes (and we know 6 minutes our time is like a nanosecond in LOST time), allegedly we, as humans, have 7 minutes before brain damage ensues. but, also, this island has magical healing powers, so maybe any damage from O2 depletion was reversed? bet the writers didn't expect us to be this detail-oriented, eh? :)

May 31, 2006 10:17 AM


Greybishop said...
Monica -
I'll check the Becky/Beth thing, but if it was Elizabeth and you're thinking that refers to Libby, wouldn't Kate have recognized her friend?
I too got an "I gotta do a happy dance" feeling when Jack said "You're not running now."
Good stuff.

May 31, 2006 10:49 AM


Monica said...
Oh no, GB - I didn't mean that if it was Beth that it referred directly to Libby, but I thought it was an interesting name choice. However, it reminds me of an episode of King of Queens where the dad, Arthur, responds to a question from Lou Ferrigno as to why his screenplay has three characters named Mike, and he says something like: "Let me put it this way, Lou. Have you ever met anyone else named Lou?" The answer is of course yes and Arthur says something like "Slice of life, my friend." Anyway, normally that's how I would feel because it is a common name; however, in this show, names mean so much. I just thought it would be interesting since if it was Beth, not Becky, there's that name again.

May 31, 2006 11:28 AM


Monica said...
And chuts - I love that you work at Border's. It seems like I am at my local one several times a week. Though I don't know why people would buy DVDs there - no offense, but they are a rip off at Border's.

May 31, 2006 11:30 AM


Monica said...
On a side note, I think everyone should put a picture up if they can - I like to be able to put a face with a name. But maybe that's just me, so no pressure - I just think it would be nice.

May 31, 2006 11:32 AM


LOSTbean said...
monica-how can i get a pic on here...seems as if you have to upload it from a web page...?

May 31, 2006 12:12 PM


Monica said...
lostbean - I know GB posted a response to the same question but I don't remember where. If you can get to your Dashboard page when logged into your blogger account, go to the link that says Blogger Help and look up how to post pictures. I'd tell you how myself, but I forget.

May 31, 2006 12:28 PM


chuts said...
lostbean
It sounds like we're pretty close together. Wouldn't it be cool if we could have lunch! As for the picture, do you have a teenager handy? :} That's how I did it.

Monica
Good call on the cpr! In all likelyhood, it was an oversite on the part of the writters. A "saved her in the nick of time" moment. I don't think that, at that time, they knew how big this would get or how much we would tear it apart.

However, if it does get explained, it will probably be that the island slowed time down, so to speak. That the healing properties of the island made it possible for her to survive without oxygen a little longer than normal. Remember that we don't know how long Charlie was hanging before Jack & Kate found him. He should have stayed dead, too. Probably the same phenomana.

May 31, 2006 12:35 PM


LOSTbean said...
i'll see what i can do re. a pic...thanks for the help chuts and monica! chuts-you ever get up to the DC area? we could watch and episode together and dissect it! :) anyway, charlie's lack of oxygen seems much more serious, but this is quite the magical island. maybe the writers really had that planned all along but we never tapped into it until bigger issues, like cancer and bum legs (and infertility perhaps?), were resolved.

May 31, 2006 12:58 PM


chuts said...
lostbean
Actually, outside of work, I don't get across town much :} But I'm not that far and I think it could be arranged.

You may be right about that. We didn't really notice smaller stuff until the bigger stuff came along.

May 31, 2006 1:20 PM


Melissa said...
Hey Greybishop-

In order to keep things that come up that each person notices that we do not have an answer to; how about you start a list of questions that need to be answered as season 3 starts. If we number each one, I believe the list will be quite long. However, it will allow us to cross stuff off our list as they are answered. What do you think?

May 31, 2006 2:16 PM


Greybishop said...
Melissa -
Great idea. Very time consuming though. Perhaps we could do it co-operatively?
I'm pretty swamped with this blog, ew, the need to do 2 full episode reviews per week...and work.
Any one else interested in a "Questions we need answers to" Project?

May 31, 2006 2:42 PM


LOSTbean said...
i could probably take everyone's questions and consolidate them into an excel spreadsheet or something...not sure how to get that to appear, then, on the blog, but if someone will let me e-mail the sheet to them, i'll take on the 1st part! :)

May 31, 2006 4:28 PM


Greybishop said...
Lostbean -
If you could keep track and e-mail me the spread sheet when we have "enough", I'll deal with it from there...

May 31, 2006 4:30 PM


LOSTbean said...
GB-deal! e-mail address?

May 31, 2006 4:39 PM


Greybishop said...
Lostbean -
greybishop1@yahoo.ca

May 31, 2006 4:51 PM


LOSTbean said...
gb-just sent you a test...let me know if you get it. :)

May 31, 2006 5:07 PM


Greybishop said...
Lostbean -
Got it.

May 31, 2006 5:19 PM


LOSTbean said...
ok LOSTies, i am the lucky one who will be keeping a spreadsheet of our many unanswered ?'s. so, send them to me in BRIEF verbiage as i fear how big this list will get. especially after i heard a radio interview with "michael" a week ago that the writers have 6-8 seasons of outlines already. holy LOST shows! i could settle for 3-4 seasons (combine the 6-8) if it meant no gaps between episodes, eh? :)

May 31, 2006 5:33 PM


Kat said...
I agree with you, Lostbean, re: combine into 3 to 4 fully packed seasons. Unfortunately, I'm slightly pessimistic since I am willing to bet after Season 3 if it's still going strong, there's going to be the problem with the actors ("But, I deserve a million an episode or I won't come back...") and it will never make the 8 seasons...

May 31, 2006 6:53 PM


Monica said...
Yeah, I'm with you kat - the show may have the ammo for that many good seasons, just like many do, but the actors almost always fuck it up. Such a shame.

May 31, 2006 10:01 PM


Greybishop said...
Well, someone had to break my cherry and drop the F-bomb.
To Monica, the prize.
Wasn't that like a catharsis?
No "*$^#" here.
Oh, yeah, that's some good profanity.
Makes me wish I still smoked.

May 31, 2006 10:37 PM


Monica said...
Actually, GB, that's one good thing about the EW board - it keeps my pottymouth in check. Usually I'm "cathartic" in most of my sentences. I'm trying to rein it in here too, but they're bound to slip out.

May 31, 2006 11:27 PM


Mitzi said...
Hey, Graybishop & Co.!

My friend and fellow LOST confidante LostBean introduced me to this blog. Very cool. I'm looking for some beefy insights (and I'm not just talking about Sawyer and Jack...wink.) I LOVED your clip of the proposed first appearance of Smokey McSmoke just before the engine blew. Had never seen that before. Verrrry interesting.

I recently saw a freeze-frame of a shot of our survivors on the beach amidst the chaos of the crash. Among those beached appeared to be someone who looked very much like "Zeke, The Other" minus the beard and ratty clothes. Anyone else see that or have thoughts on whether Zeke made his first official appearance in episode 1?

June 01, 2006 11:17 AM


Greybishop said...
Mitzi -
If you could find that shot and e-mail it to me at greybishop1@yahoo.ca
I'll see if I can match it up in an episode for us to take a closer look at.
Welcome!

June 01, 2006 12:02 PM


Mitzi said...
LostBean and I are narrowing in on it. It's no longer available at the original link. We'll e-mail it to you as soon as we find it again.

June 01, 2006 12:39 PM


Mitzi said...
We found it! Thanks to some pretty savvy Googling by LostBean. Anyway, here's what we have to offer for consideration regarding "Zeke" (a.k.a. Tom) possibly being at the beach crash site.

http://www.thetailsection.com/uploaded_images/mrfriendly9tq-751428.jpg

And here are a few more Zeke images for comparison:

http://lost.cubit.net/pics/2x15/mrFriendly.jpg

And here's a gratuitous shot of Jack getting out of the hatch shower for no reason other than the beauty of it. :) But of course that's season 2 so I digress.

http://www.thetailsection.com/gallery/displayimage-17-139.html

June 01, 2006 1:04 PM


Greybishop said...
Mitzi -
That guy caught my attention too. He actually has the line "Get away from the gas" or something like that, but didn't sound like "Zeke". It IS interesting though, since very few "unimportant" characters have lines. Also interesting is that he seems to run TOWARDS the burning wreckage while warning others to stay away...

June 01, 2006 1:23 PM


Kat said...
Monica,
Congrats on the F-bomb. I'm pleased that my comment was the catalyst ;) I honestly thought I would be the first one, since I have the tendency to drop it... all the time.

Mitzi and Lostbean, great pics there. But I don't know if that's him or not... he looks more elderly in the crash pics, but of course, that could be more theater tricks...

I just have to say, I am so loving this board with you guys. I didn't think that I would come here as often as I do, but now I'm addicted... I gotta catch up and watch the eps so I can contribute better.

June 01, 2006 3:39 PM


Crazy4Lost said...
I finally sat down and finished up watching ep 1 & 2. Hope you are ready for my observations....

Ep 1 -

During the leaf plane crash explanation by Jack to Kate, Jack says he took flying lessons and "it wasn't for me." His tone was as if he took lessons because he had to or for someone else.

When the threesome reached the cockpit portion of the plane I noticed two things. 1) There is a leaf with a bright yellow line across it. It appears to be 2-3 inches wide. What is it? 2) There is a huge singe type mark on the outside of the plane between the cockpit and the 1st class windows. Why is it there, there wasn't any way for that to be a burn mark, was it? And the singe is a strange shape. For those who look at the hidden things at the Hanso site, it looks alot like markings that appear on the letters hidden on Mittlewerk's page.

Inside the cockpit portion of the plane, as the threesome are making their way climbing upwards, there is a brief camera focus on a long, circular, plastic wrapped object sitting on top of what appears to be a newspaper. This appears out of place and illogical to think it wouldn't be blown out when the plane split. And what is it?

Why were there no survivors, except(ever so briefly)the pilot, from 1st class?

Ep 2

As Charlie is dashing to the front of the plane, we see Jack, Rose, Locke, Boone, and Shannon. I couldn't see any of our other Losties. I find this strange. Also, Charlie was sitting about 5 rows behind Jack when he started his exodus to the plane's forward most bathrooms, which are right by the cockpit door (in front of 1st class). Yet, as the crash started to happen, Charlie made his way out of the bathroom and buckled himself into a seat in the same section of the plane as Shannon and Boone. This means he went all the way through 1st class into the next section of the plane!! Why wouldn't he have just taken the first seat he saw in 1st class??

When Jack gives the transceiver to Sayid, Sayid says its a dual-band, military spec. Is this a normal transceiver for a commercial airlines?

Jack finds a straight blade razor to operate on the marshall. Charlie has heroin in his shoe, these are both odd occurrences in a post 9-11 world.

And now for a funny: Kate takes the gun from Sawyer after the bear shooting. Kate says: "Does anybody know how to use a gun?" Charlie says: "I think you just pull the trigger." :)

June 01, 2006 4:11 PM


Monica said...
kat - While I don't think I have ever before been congratulated for dropping the f-bomb, I have to admit that I like it - so thanks!

June 01, 2006 4:14 PM


Monica said...
and C4L - congrats are in order for you too! I see that you got your pic up - good job!

June 01, 2006 4:15 PM


Monica said...
GB - Every time I scroll to the bottom of your recaps to get to the comments and see the line "Boone knows first hand that Shannon Frenches," I CRACK UP! I love it! I meant to mention that before, but I kept forgetting.

June 01, 2006 4:20 PM


Monica said...
C4L - I noticed that too about Charlie and forgot to say anything about to = glad you brought it up. It didn't seem to me like he went through first class, but he must have.

June 01, 2006 4:31 PM


LOSTbean said...
GB & Melissa-C4L just introduced a bunch-o-questions after watching ep. 1 & 2 again. are these the kind that we want on the spread sheet, and/or the bigger ?'s like "who were adam and eve that were found in the caves?" they are all good ?'s, but not sure if we want a bigger, broader theme or attention to detail theme. Please advise! :)

June 01, 2006 4:41 PM


Crazy4Lost said...
Monica -

Thanks!! It took me a bit, but I figured it out!

June 01, 2006 4:41 PM


LOSTbean said...
C4L-a thought on your comment on jack's flying lessons...maybe when he said it wasn't for him, he meant it like he tried it and didn't like it? maybe it has something to do with the thailand excursion?

June 01, 2006 4:44 PM


LOSTbean said...
C4L-glad you figured out the frickin' picture post...i am still LOST on how to do it! (corny line, i know)

June 01, 2006 4:46 PM


Greybishop said...
Lostbean -
Talk about the proverbial genie/bottle scenario!
I leave the final organization/layout to you.
I might suggest either a chronological or "weighted" approach. For instance, you could lay out the "questions" by episode, or you could have a "Big, and Little" Question layout.
Anyone else have any ideas?

June 01, 2006 4:55 PM


Crazy4Lost said...
lostbean -

I thought that too, at first, about Jack's flying lessons. But it just seemed like more from the way he said it. Could be nothing, or maybe we will find out later!

Only helpful input on the the picture posting is this, go to blogger help from your dashboard and click the link on how to post a picture. Follow that step by step.

June 01, 2006 4:56 PM


Kat said...
Lostbean,
My thoughts are if it's going to be in an Excel spreadsheet, why not have several columns. Put the questions in one column, dates submitted in the next, categorize like GB said and maybe use "High" "Medium" and "Low" for weighted or priority level. Then people can sort according to what they want. you could even add a column for who it refers to: Tailies, The Others, Lost general, individual characters... oh and don't forget a column for "Resolution" so that if we finally get answers to questions or raised issues, we can log it there...

OK, I maybe deal with spreadsheets a little too much... ;)

June 01, 2006 5:45 PM


LOSTbean said...
look out kat, i may delegate to you :)

June 01, 2006 6:01 PM


Kat said...
Lostbean,
LOL... Oh man... if we want it to go anywhere, I wouldn't give it to me ;)

June 01, 2006 6:06 PM


Greybishop said...
So, Kat is our official "I need excel help" person.

Lostbean -
Do what I do when faced with an impossible task. Wing it.

June 01, 2006 6:09 PM


LOSTbean said...
ok, so when i get fired from my real job as this could get to be quite the project, i know everyone out there will be sending me mortgage $$$ until i secure another job, yes?

June 01, 2006 6:11 PM


Greybishop said...
Lostbean -
I thought the exact same thing when I started this "little" project.
Since it was her idea, I hope Monica has the wherewithall to support me when I get fired....

June 01, 2006 6:13 PM


LOSTbean said...
GB-notice a common theme...monica (3 syllables, starts in m, ends in a) suggested you do this and melissa (same: 3 syll., starts with m, ends in a) suggested the spread sheet project???? do not take suggestions from anyone else whose name follows that pattern! :)

June 01, 2006 6:21 PM


Greybishop said...
Lostbean -
I'd say it depends on the suggestion. ;0)

June 01, 2006 6:25 PM


LOSTbean said...
GB-LOL! good point! :)

June 01, 2006 6:28 PM


Monica said...
GB - Sorry to disappoint but I barely have the funds to support myself so I cannot be your sugar momma if you happen to get fired. I will, however, send you a very lovely sympathy card. :)

June 01, 2006 7:28 PM


Kat said...
In order to contribute to Lostbean losing her job, I added some questions to the posting... and if you lose your job, I can sign Monica's card ;)

June 01, 2006 9:03 PM


Greybishop said...
Monica, Kat -
Oh, you two are a BIG help.

June 01, 2006 10:06 PM


Crazy4Lost said...
GB -

I can't support you either, but I will offer you shelter! Just got to make your way to Florida!!

June 02, 2006 6:18 AM


Greybishop said...
C4L -
Thanks for the offer!
I promise I won't take you up on it though. I am the world's worst roommate. At least, that seems to be the general consensus among former roommates and live in girlfriends.
The fact that my two former live in girlfriends are now taking various incarnations of prozac is either confirmation or the cause, I can't quite decide.

June 02, 2006 9:25 AM


LOSTbean said...
GB-you're not exactly painting a great pic of yourself for any single chicks on here...

June 02, 2006 10:03 AM


Greybishop said...
Lostbean -
After 2 1/2 engagements I have finally accepted that I am destined to be single and sane for the rest of my life. Besides, this way, I get to spend my money on DVDs instead of diamonds...
;0)

June 02, 2006 10:26 AM


LOSTbean said...
2 and 1/2 engagements? what was the half engagement...like, did you only get to ask the "will you" part of the "will you marry me" question and she ran for the hills? poor GB... :( depending on the size of the diamond (s) (not sure if you got to recycle any), you could purchase quite a few dvd's!

June 02, 2006 10:35 AM


Greybishop said...
Lostbean -
Also, I am the FIRST to admit, I am relationship impaired.
I am Jack. I have a severe "Knight in Shining Armour" complex and I'm forever trying to fix people, so naturally I'm attracted to women that need fixing. Unfortunately, I ain't exactly Bob Villa when it comes to psychological repairs...

June 02, 2006 10:39 AM


Greybishop said...
Lostbean -
The half was her getting the ring she wanted, with an implied but never spoken "let's get married" (I SWEAR, I'm never getting "legitimately" engaged again). It was a Christmas gift and she dumped me second week of January.
That's three "beyond my budget" rings. I never even considered asking for them back for "recycling". I'm such a shmoe.

June 02, 2006 10:43 AM


LOSTbean said...
awwwwwwww, GB. cyber hug!

June 02, 2006 11:10 AM


Kat said...
GB,
You totally deserve those rings back, esp. from that "half" girl... cuz that's just evil...

June 02, 2006 12:25 PM


Greybishop said...
Kat -
In once fell swoop, you have just defined my taste in women...

June 02, 2006 12:28 PM


LOSTbean said...
GB-the site is acting funny...keeps timing out when i refresh. hope it's ok! so, not nagging (as us girls tend to do), but when does the next review of ep's 3 & 4 come out? just need to know when to plunk in my dvd's and take some good notes!

June 02, 2006 1:26 PM


Greybishop said...
Lostbean -
I guess it's the site, because it's been twitchy for me too.
Hope that gets resolved soon.
New reviews every Saturday and/or Sunday, luck, work, and stamina withstanding.
I'm targetting Saturday, but life might get in the way some weeks.
For instance, yesterday at this time, I had Thursday night, Friday Night and Saturday Night clear. Then, the phone rang and I ended up with gigs all 3 nights.
Money is nice, but having a life can also be good. So I'm told.

June 02, 2006 2:12 PM


Crazy4Lost said...
GB -

Now I can't get the song "Killing Me Softly" out of my head!!

June 02, 2006 2:17 PM


Greybishop said...
C4L -
Did I miss something? "Killing me softly"?

June 02, 2006 2:39 PM


Crazy4Lost said...
GB -

Yeah, when you were describing your love life. You do know that song, don't you?

June 02, 2006 3:27 PM


Greybishop said...
I know the song, but I never really thought about the lyrics. Something about a guy singing to a girl...
I tend to relate more to songs like "Self-Esteem" by the Offspring. That song came out while I was being emotionally pummelled by the only ex I've ever taken back after a break up. Apropos, as they say....

June 02, 2006 3:30 PM


Monica said...
Oh god! Yes, taking back an ex after a break-up is bad. Just say NO people! Yeah... you can tell I'm a victim.

June 02, 2006 3:32 PM


Greybishop said...
Only did it the once.
My motto now: Sure I can forgive, but until I get Alzheimer's I won't forget. Come back when I'm 80.

June 02, 2006 3:34 PM


Monica said...
It really makes me wonder why people will re-marry the same person they already divorced. Hello! People don't change much... if at all.

June 02, 2006 3:35 PM


Crazy4Lost said...
Ditto!!! DO NOT make the same mistake twice, EVER

Killing me softly - girl hears about a good singer, goes to hear him sing, he sings a song that make her feel like he's read her personal letters and is singing them for the whole world to hear.

So, when you described your experience, made me feel like you were describing mine

June 02, 2006 3:45 PM


Greybishop said...
Ding! My little lightbulb came on!
I get it now. I can be a tad dense at times.

June 02, 2006 3:48 PM


Crazy4Lost said...
Checked out the lyrics to Self-Esteem. That makes me think of the song I recently could relate to when going through a break-up...I Hate Myself For Loving You, Joan Jett.

June 02, 2006 3:49 PM


Greybishop said...
So. Season 1, ep 1 and 2. Any thoughts?
Anyone?

June 02, 2006 3:57 PM


Crazy4Lost said...
You've got my thoughts!! I still waiting for some reactions!

What about that transceiver, is military spec normal?

June 02, 2006 4:01 PM


LOSTbean said...
i am so busy typing up everyone's questions, i forgot my own! :)

June 02, 2006 4:07 PM


Greybishop said...
C4L -
I showed a screenshot of the tranceiver to the President of our Two-Way Radio Department.
He assures me that the style of AM transceiver we are shown is perfectly consistant with international commercial aviation.

June 02, 2006 4:34 PM


LOSTbean said...
GB/C4L-so can i not type up the transceiver question in my list-are we satisfied?

June 02, 2006 4:43 PM


Greybishop said...
Lostbean -
I gotta go with "Yes" on that.
This guy has been dealing in two-way radio for 20 years. He knows his stuff.
I said, "Marty, is that a normal transceiver for a commericial passenger jet?"
He looked at it, mumbled some model numbers and said "Absolutely."
I was convinced.

June 02, 2006 5:01 PM


LOSTbean said...
GB-just e-mailed you the list (i am so proud i finished it thus far!!!).

June 02, 2006 5:09 PM


LOSTbean said...
well go figure, as soon as i shoot of the list, someone posts another question. c'est la vie!

June 02, 2006 5:12 PM


Greybishop said...
Just taking a look now, Lostbean.
I'll figure out a way to post it tomorrow.

June 02, 2006 5:49 PM


Greybishop said...
C4L -
I looked a the burn mark. It does have a sort of "man made" cross-hatch look to it. My suspicion is that this is the result of a prop person's inability to mimic "real" fire damage. On the flip side, when was the front part of the plane on fire?

June 02, 2006 6:06 PM


Greybishop said...
I also have no idea whatsoever as to what the plastic wrapped cylinder is.

June 02, 2006 6:09 PM


Crazy4Lost said...
GB -
On the plastic wrapped thing, did it seem like they focused on it purposely to you?

June 02, 2006 7:24 PM


Greybishop said...
Seemed like it, yeah.
It also seems strange that they never went back to the cockpit to see if there was anything else to scavenge.
TreePusher notwithstanding...

June 02, 2006 7:38 PM


ktwolf said...
OK... I'm finally re-watching episode 1 (again). Boy, the beginning is so powerful! I remember when I first saw it, I was thinking "WTF"?. I knew it was about a plane crash on a deserted island, but I didn't get that for quite a while... not until they showed the sneaker in the tree.
And, by the way, Kate's friend's name DID sound like "Beth". So, another exmaple of a recycled name. Whatever that means (if anything).

June 05, 2006 1:00 PM


Jess said...
I have finally figured out that the reason the booze in Jack's pocket didn't break is because it was plastic. This came to me as I was making a drink with a mini bottle of Captain Morgan yesterday. When I mentioned this to my husband, he just shook his head and muttered something about me obsessing about LOST again....

June 23, 2006 3:06 PM

Episodes 03 & 04

Monica said...
Thank you GB! I didn't know what Tabula Rasa meant and never bothered to look.

June 02, 2006 9:40 PM


LOSTbean said...
GB-you are HUGE (that's a compliment)! way to get ep's 3&4 posted! i know you had a busy weekend. thanks for taking time out to be LOST! :)

June 03, 2006 1:40 PM


Greybishop said...
It's true. I am HUGE. Thanks largely to the bakery around the corner from my old office...

June 03, 2006 3:30 PM


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June 03, 2006 5:36 PM


Kat said...
Hi All,
GB, thanks for posting the summaries...
Just watched the 3rd and 4th episode... How is is that a jerk like Randy can say all those mean, twisted things to Locke and get away with it? I mean, honestly, in this day and age? That dude would be tossed in no time... esp. for making fun of a handicapped person... that's a lawsuit waiting to happen...

June 04, 2006 8:42 PM


Greybishop said...
Kat -
My guess is that Randy knows that Locke has too much pride to go the lawsuit route. I'd bet that with the completely unpredictable exception of Hurley and his winning ticket, Randy has a pretty good read on people. We've only seen him twice, but if Hurley had not won the lottery, Randy had him right where he wanted him. I'd bet that we're going to see more of him and he'll be just as obnoxious and just as right.

June 06, 2006 11:10 PM


LOSTbean said...
i wonder if we see randy again (which we already did, as we see him as hurley's boss at the chicken place too, don't we?), will we see some of the other significant flash back folks...like sawyer's girlfriend in the long con-cassidy was it?

June 07, 2006 12:04 PM


Greybishop said...
lostbean -
I'd say that you can bet on it. Flashback crossovers will abound in then next season, I'm guessing...

June 07, 2006 1:07 PM


Crazy4Lost said...
"Oh, and this is John's eye opening wide in astonishment as he realizes that his little piggies have come back from the market. Welcome home little piggies."

That truly cracks me up!!! GB, I do truly love your reviews, awesome job!!

June 08, 2006 2:38 AM


Greybishop said...
C4L -
Glad to be of service. Let's face it. Lost has a LOT of comedic potential. One just has to know where to look...

June 08, 2006 7:29 AM


Anonymous said...
Greybishop,

Responded on EW but must have used a word it determined was foul. I didn't, but those censors never make sense to me.

Just want to assure you that I'm betting there are many people like me in "Lost Land" who are regular readers of both EW and your blog but rarely are we contributors. How selfish are we? Take, take, take, never give anything back.

I really enjoy your recaps. Makes me realize how much I've missed when watching the episodes. Of course, it also intimidates the crap out of me! You and all the other regulars (Monica, Crazy4lost, et al) seem to really be a bit more dedicated than I am. Reading all your comments makes me want to go out and purchase Season 1 so I can watch and rewatch to see everything you're all seeing. I sometimes wonder if I'm watching an entirely different show!

Just know that there are people out here who really appreciate all the work you're putting into all of this.

p.s. I really love it sometimes when you guys get off-topic. You crack me up.

June 08, 2006 10:04 AM


LOSTbean said...
to anon-i was one of those takers in the EW chat room. some of the die hards seemed much more perceptive than i. plus, sometimes people beat me to writing about the one or 2 things i had taken from the show that i felt were important and i know that some repetitiveness happens, but excessive repeats were poo-pooed. but, our little site is much smaller, so it's easy to read what others have said and be caught up. don't be shy...share crazy thoughts-you never know when it may create some insight that none of us had up until now.

June 08, 2006 10:50 AM


LOSTbean said...
i wonder if our flashback friends will also end up on a fateful flight (f to the 4th power=flashback friends on fateful flight). i say that only because i think back to eko and michael's conversation in the hatch re. if there is a hell. if some of the f4's end up on the island, it could be "hell" for them, or the current LOSTies. you know what they say-paybacks are heck! AND, i wonder if there are any connections between the "others" and the current LOSTies...?

June 08, 2006 10:55 AM


jas65 said...
lostbean - thanks for your feedback. As soon as I start re-watching season 1 (I really feel a need to buy it now), I'll try to shed the mantle of shyness and feelings of inadequacies and become a sharer instead of a taker.
jas65 (formerly anon)

June 08, 2006 11:44 AM


LOSTbean said...
nice to make your acquaintance jas65! you'll do just fine in this chat room! :)

June 08, 2006 11:58 AM


bil-a-bong said...
anon- I too spent eight months reading the board religiously and enjoying the insights from the 'regulars'. Only recently did I 'jump in' to the Board. I can tell you there is not a more gracious moderator (i.e. Mayor) than Greybishop. And...this is an extremely intelligent group!

June 08, 2006 10:15 PM


Kat said...
Hi Jas65,
No worries, I, too, was a "lurker" and was always on the EW site, and ended up stalking these people over to here :) (They may have moved over here to escape me, but there is no escape - muh ha ha ha). OK, I've been sick and my meds are getting to me, I guess... In any event, I bought Season 1 a long time ago, but had never unwrapped and was going to either return it or resell it, and then GB, C4L, Monica, et al came along, and now I'm working thru it too... so come along, it's fun

June 09, 2006 1:03 PM


jas65 said...
Kat - I stalked over here from EW as well. I work with several people who watch Lost, but most don't seem to be into it as much as I am. So when I found the Losties on EW, I started "peeping".

I'm going out this weekend to buy Season 1. Don't know how much I'll be able to watch, but I'm hoping to get through the first six episodes so I can keep up with GB!

June 09, 2006 4:02 PM


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June 12, 2006 8:17 PM


TK said...
Hey all, I have been reading but not posting. Right now I am trying to catch up with everyone. Just got through Episodes 3 and 4. I look forward to the summer project.

The first time I watched this I thought that the guy in the suite with white shoes (maybe it was no shoes)that Jack kept seeing was the Marshall. Jack never saw him till after he had to finish Sawyer's screwed up death penlty. Then the next week we get to see the whole story and how even the hero has a screwed up life just like everyone else on the island.

It is funny how much you missed during the first time around and after season two so much makes sense. I still wonder about some of the unknow monsters on the island. Do we ever see them again? There was not as much about them as ther was about the others in season two.

I hope to get through Episode 4 and 5 so I am caught up with everyone.

Thanks for the blog! It was nice to find.

TK

June 13, 2006 12:23 AM

Episodes 05 & 06

Lady-in-Gray said...
GB: Another great recap! I really enjoy your writing style. Since I don't have TIVO, a DVD player or even a working VCR, I have to rely on your recaps, another site's "transcripts" and reruns to pick up on things that I missed the first time around.

There are two things that I would like to inquire about and comment on. My questions involve Sun and Jin. I vaguely remember Jin being sent to LA to deliver a watch for Sun's father. Did Sun's father make the reservations and did he intend for Sun to accompany Jin? Also, what is their prior connection to the other Losties? Another site mentioned that Hurley's picture was on a TV screen in an office that Jin visited. Other than that, I don't recall their paths crossing with anyone else before they arrived at the airport.

My comments invlolve the black and white stones that someone inquired about earlier. They could simply be "worry stones" that are popular in some cultures. Or they could have a religious/belief system significance. For example, a Native American carried a "Medicine Bag" (leather pouch) which contained items (usually stone) from which he gained personal strength and power (medicine). Or, the stones could have been used for up or down voting (blackballing).

Thanks for putting your time and effort into this project. You are, indeed, a talented writer. You also have good diplomacy skills. If you really repair phones for a living, your talents are being wasted.. . . .

P.S. I can't believe that you HATE Hockey!!! It's the ONLY sport that I can actually sit still and focus on long enough to enjoy!!! Go Stars!

June 11, 2006 12:13 PM


Greybishop said...
lady-in-gray.
Thanks much for the nice compliments. Always nice to know that my work is being enjoyed and appreciated.
To your questions.
1. Hurley shows up (probably during a post lotto win interview) very briefly on the tv in the livingroom of a government official that Jin is sent to "deliver a message" to. Although I haven't recapped that episode yet, I believe he also gets the puppy that he give Sun in the same scene.
2. The stones. Lots of possiblities. I think your "up/down" vote idea (considering we only see 2 bodies) has merit. You know, white stone makes dinner, etc.
Possibly they are just worry stones, but with all the black/white imagery in the show, I doubt they're JUST worry stones. The medicine bag idea is one I never considered, but if it was a medicine bag wouln't there be more in it, like a feather, etc?
And, I totally agree. My talents are being wasted, but no one has yet offered me a six figure salary to pursue my greatest talent, the ability to sleep 14 hours at a time without interruption. I'm still looking though...

June 11, 2006 3:23 PM


Rbone said...
14 hours! That's not sleep - that's a coma.
I'm really enjoying the reviews also.
Thanks for doing them.

June 11, 2006 8:58 PM


LOSTbean said...
GB-great review (as always)! it'll probably seem trite coming from me every week, but i mean it! i see from "tangent time" you may not be around much this week. do the folks at your job realize that we NEED you in here? of course, their response would probably be something to the tune of..."if the LOSTies NEED you so much, go. far be it from us to deprive them. BUT, they will need to hereforward pay for your salary and benefits." that said, go, do the job thing, but we'll miss you this week! :(

June 12, 2006 9:19 AM


LOSTbean said...
now that i am done stroking GB's ego again this week, i decided to try to be as analytical as you guys all are and i watched episode 5 (white bunny) 3 times, taking some notes. i will address these in seperate blogs, and i'll move them over to the LOSTbean's list-o-questions if they seem warranted for that.

June 12, 2006 9:21 AM


LOSTbean said...
white bunny: jack and locke are talking and jack asks, " how are they, the others?" it seems as if everyone is an "other" to someone else on this show. just a comment.

June 12, 2006 9:22 AM


LOSTbean said...
white bunny: another "others" comment..."when the others find out the water is gone, it's gonna get ugly."

June 12, 2006 9:23 AM


LOSTbean said...
white bunny: why, after locke rescues jack from the edge of the cliff, does he start laughing when he's lying on the ground next to locke? is it this sort of breakdown as he is fatigued and has been chasing his alleged father and he just sort of falls apart by laughing? is it the "i can't beleive what's happened to us" laugh (again, a breakdown sort of laugh)?

June 12, 2006 9:26 AM


LOSTbean said...
white bunny: is it possible jack's dad really is dead? the coffin wasn't locked or sealed in anyway when jack found it, so maybe his dad's body just fell out somewhere in the crash? boring theory i know...much more fun to think he was never really dead (just looking quite cyanotic in that big ziploc baggy in the morgue...) and now he, or some kind of spirit of his, is haunting jack on the island. christian's shoes sure stay white tho, don't they? his luxury item that he brought on the island (survivor reference there), must have been a tin of kiwi shoe polish and a buffing rag.

June 12, 2006 9:30 AM


LOSTbean said...
christian shepherd...hmmm...any significance to that name perhaps?

June 12, 2006 9:31 AM


LOSTbean said...
white bunny: locke asks, "why are you out here jack?" jack replies, "i think i am going crazy." locke says something to the effect of crazy people don't know they are crazy-crazy people think they are getting saner. sorta makes you think about hurley and that whole back story...

June 12, 2006 9:32 AM


LOSTbean said...
white bunny: when jack finds the doll in the waterfall, is that the same kind of doll that rousseau has been using to "catch people in a net?" if so, are there a whole stash of them...kinda like the virgin mary statues? someone should break open one of those dolls and see what's inside. i volunteer charlie.

June 12, 2006 9:34 AM


LOSTbean said...
house-o-sun: only one comment from here. go to the part right after they are listing the actors/actresses names...right after ian s. and right before the "created by..." and check out the rock formations as the group is entering the caves. 2 of them, i swear, look like big faces. kinda like the mount rushmore of LOST island. you'll have to watch it several times...at least, i did. bizarre. maybe it's just me...maybe ~i~ am going crazy-this show can do that to you!

June 12, 2006 9:37 AM


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June 12, 2006 9:38 AM


jas65 said...
Great job, GB!

Funny, I never noticed until I bought the set and sat down for a marathon session of 12 episodes (what a life I have), and read your recaps, how often an episode started with a close up of someone's eye!

June 12, 2006 1:36 PM


LOSTbean said...
quick question...why were jin and sun flying to LAX?

June 12, 2006 2:15 PM


jas65 said...
Lostbean - I believe it was as Lady-in-gray stated. It had something to do with delivering the watch for Sun's father. I haven't reviewed that episode yet, but can confirm once I do.

June 12, 2006 3:10 PM


LOSTbean said...
thanks jas65 (and l-i-g)...couldn't totally recall if that was it, or something else. i wonder where the car waiting for sun outside the airport would have taken her...to another place in korea? to another flight to america?

June 12, 2006 3:54 PM


Jess said...
Wool-hoo! My copy of Season One is on its way to me as we speak! Yippee! I'm going to catch up with you guys soon! Of course, I watched them all the first time, but now I can re-watch and analyze right along with you all.

June 13, 2006 3:19 PM


Jess said...
OK, that should say woo-hoo, not wool-hoo! Baaa! And I guess Season One is on its way as I type, not as we speak....Whatever!

June 13, 2006 3:21 PM


LOSTbean said...
jess-we'll have to save some $$$ and purchase season 2 together, seeing as we live so close. we can order up some good seafood and just have a LOSTfest! :)

June 13, 2006 4:47 PM


Anonymous said...
GS - I'm another one of those people who've just been reading (on the EW too) and not contributing. I have to say that your recaps are not only informative (I was watching the same show, wasn't I?) but pretty darn funny as well. Just wanted to let you know that all your time and effort is most appreciated. Please don't stop.

Don't we find out later that Sun's Dad wanted Jin to deliver the watch to someone in LA, so he (the dad) could be guaranteed that Jin didn't run off and disappear (with Sun of course)? Which is why Jin has the watch in first place and why he gets so angry with Michael when he thought Michael had stolen it? Or am I completely in left field on this?

Maybe I should just stick to reading!

June 13, 2006 4:59 PM


LOSTbean said...
anon-i think you are right...it was just so long ago and i am trying not to jump ahead in my season 1 dvd's, as tempting as it is! welcome to this chat room!

June 13, 2006 5:05 PM


Lady-in-Gray said...
Anon: Welcome. I'm a little confused by your use of the word "guaranteed". Do you mean that it was a test of Jin's loyalty to Sun's father?

June 13, 2006 6:34 PM


Anonymous said...
LiG,

Yeah, I got the idea that Sun's dad knew Jin was going to try and jump ship. The watch delivery was somehow the dad's insurance that Jin would return. I also thought it was interesting that both Sun and Jin were trying escape from their current lives, unbeknownst to each other.

June 13, 2006 7:46 PM


Lady-in-Gray said...
Anon: Wow! I completely missed the part about Jin wanting to escape. I knew he wasn't happy with his job but I didn't know that he wanted to leave it and Sun too. Do your remember which year and episode that flashback was in? Also, do you remember who booked them on that flight and why Sun was going with him? Thanks.

June 13, 2006 8:19 PM


Jess said...
Lostbean--great idea. We should meet for lunch in Annapolis. There are so many good places to eat there. I tend to gravitate to Macaroni Grill. Their chocolate cake is DELICIOUS. So is the tiramisu. The pasta's not bad, either!!!!

June 13, 2006 8:51 PM


Gerry said...
LiG,

Previously known as anon here. I had to set up an identity.

Anyway, I don't know which episode or season that flashback was in. The problem is I watched only a couple of episodes from season 1 when they originally aired and then tried to fill in when they ran reruns last summer. Talk about confusing.
Okay, like you needed all that information. Sorry.

I could be wrong but I got the idea that Jin only wanted to escape Sun's father. I thought he had planned to take Sun with him so they could regain what they originally had together. As for who booked them on that flight, I have no clue.
As to why she went with him, weren't they going on vacation? Just a guess on that one.

June 13, 2006 11:14 PM


Lady-in-Gray said...
Gerry: Thanks for the info. I've been puzzled by the lack of a previous connection between Sun and Jin and the other Losties. Also, I was thinking that if Sun's father put them on that flight, he might be involved with Widmore or the Dharma Project in some way. I guess time will reveal all. Thanks, again.

June 13, 2006 11:40 PM


TK said...
Hey all, I posted late to the last two episodes but I have been reading for a few weeks now and thought I would catch up with everyone for the summer project.

As for Sun and Jin, I too have had a hard time figuring out how they are connected to the rest of the losties.

I thought that they were going to LA so Jin could deliver the watch for Sun's father. For some reason I thought that Sun talked Jin into letting her go, so they could try to get back what they use to have but Sun really just wanted to run away from Jin at the airport.

I could be wrong about that and I will be interested to figure out who paid for their tickets also.

On another note I was reading TV guide today and saw where they were going to introduce three new charters to the group. (A "Very Attractive" female in her twenties, a Latino hunk and a thirty something female with leadership abilities). That may be old news to everyone one. My thing is how they are going to introduce them. Wonder if they are supposed to be extras that are going to step forward since Jack, Sawyer, and Kate are with now with the OTHERS.

Sorry to stray from Year 1 105 and 106.

Look forward to the rest of the episodes.

TK

June 14, 2006 12:17 AM


LOSTbean said...
tk-i hand't heard about those new characters! i am going to have to stop at the grocery store on my way home today and get the TV Guide. Is it this week's? i am excited about the latino hunk dude, but i am sure the guys out there would like some chickee-boos since a lot have been "terminated" from the show.

June 14, 2006 11:48 AM


TK said...
LB,

Yeah it is this weeks issue. I am a little more fired up about the Female than the Latino hunk myself. :)

TK

June 14, 2006 10:44 PM


Briolissima said...
Lostbean-
You can also link to the TV Guide info on the casting call at www.
tvguide.com/news/ausiello/askausiello/ Then click on the "Ausiello Report" tab. He does a weekly report/blog with scoops/spoilers and exclusive interviews. There's usually something in there every week about Lost. Check out the link to the new Hanso site also www.retrieversoftruth.com to learn more (more questions??) about Vincent.

June 15, 2006 6:24 PM


LOSTbean said...
wow Briolissima! thanks for the info! :) i am excited to do a little surfing at work today and check these sites out. (just what i needed...more sites to get sucked into-hah!).

June 16, 2006 9:18 AM


qt said...
Re: Sun & Jin;
Am I a complete lunatic, or is Sun's maiden name Paik?

June 20, 2006 1:03 AM


Greybishop said...
qt -
Sun's Maiden Name is Paik.
I have no way to vouch for your sanity however. ;o)

June 20, 2006 9:49 AM

Episodes 07 & 08

Jess said...
"At this point, somewhere in the States, Celeste Hutsonpillar's clothes fell off."

Oh my Gosh, I actually laughed out loud at that! Holy crap, that was funny!

"Kate finally agrees. Sawyer gets his (very hot) kiss. Greybishop is left with feelings of extreme jealousy."

You're not kidding, that was a hot kiss. From a woman's perspective, I think there were a LOT of people who were left with feelings of extreme jealousy. Sawyer definitely seems to know what he is doing.

Great recap once again, GB. I am patiently waiting for my Season One to arrive from e-bay. OK, I'm waiting, but not so patiently. How long can it take to get here, for Pete's sake??? I'm going to O.D. on LOST when it finally arrives. Then it will be time for me to re-watch all of Season Two that I have saved on DVR, and get ready for Season Three to begin. Woo-hoo!

June 17, 2006 7:28 PM


Briolissima said...
GB-
I live for your recaps! Your ability to mine comedic gold out of this "looking in the rear-view mirror of Season 1" with the knowledge you/we have of S2 makes your rapier wit all the sharper and more enjoyable for us! Bravo!

June 18, 2006 4:39 PM


JenMin said...
I don't mean to be dense, but who is Celeste Hutsonpillar? The last name sounds really familiar but I can't place it. The joke totally went over my head and it's driving me crazy! Help!

June 18, 2006 9:10 PM


JenMin said...
Oh, and excellent review as always! You crack me up!

June 18, 2006 9:11 PM


Greybishop said...
Jenmin-
Celeste Hutsonpillar is "Chuts". She's always saying "My clothes fell off!" whenever Sawyer gets on camera with his shirt off...

June 18, 2006 9:37 PM


Briolissima said...
GB-
Interesting how in "The Moth" lots of people's "coccoons"/clothes came off. Funny how in the first viewing of these episodes way back when, much of the subtle symbolism was not picked up (at least not by me, even watching every episode). Now with your "Summer of Lost" we/I am forced to really go back and appreciate some of the elaborate writing.

June 18, 2006 10:33 PM


Briolissima said...
Also important to note: everybody, myself included, got caught up in some of the character's hotness (i.e.Sawyer/KateJack) but these early eps show some interesting character traits/flaws/strengths that I started to forget about. I don't care how hot Sawyer is,he can look you STRAIGHT IN THE EYES and lie without flinching. I've noticed in several eps that Jack can't look at anyone and lie-wussy!

June 18, 2006 10:37 PM


LOSTbean said...
GB-awesome recap, as always! so many one-liners in there that are classic! i wish i had 1/2 your wit!

so, i guess sawyer and his post-nookie briefcase-full-o-money-accidentally-falling-open is sorta his post-nookie move? that, or he really needs to replace that darn briefcase!

June 19, 2006 10:51 AM


JenMin said...
GB-
Thanks! I get it now. Good line! One of many good lines in your recap, I might add... I still say you should be the recap writer for EW. :)

June 19, 2006 11:08 AM


Greybishop said...
lostbean -
I wish I had half your cat...

June 19, 2006 11:49 AM


Jess said...
GB-- I laughed out loud again when I read that you wish you had half of LB's cat! It is bad enough to laugh out loud when you are on the computer, but to then try to explain to anyone who hears you WHY you are laughing, that's just pathetic. They don't get it, and you (I) end up looking like an idiot. By the way, which half of the cat would you like to have? Left? Right? Front? Back? Inside? Outside?

June 19, 2006 1:20 PM


LOSTbean said...
GB-only half? he can probably spare more than that and still be ok with whatever is left! he's a chubby one! the back half is not his best look...he's so fat he can't really bathe back there and gets frequent dingleberries...

June 19, 2006 1:39 PM


Greybishop said...
Yeah, I'd like the half that doesn't need me to change the litterbox.

June 19, 2006 1:56 PM


Greybishop said...
Oh, and lostbean? Like Driveshaft before you, no more painting mental pictures allowed!

June 19, 2006 1:57 PM


LOSTbean said...
sorry to be so graphic...it's just sam walks by you and BAM...there they are. my mom faithfully brushes him every morning so as to alleviate that look. but, if she's on travel, my dad's not so good with that stuff. this is why i live 1700 miles from my parents...well, this and many other reasons! :)

June 19, 2006 2:27 PM


Greybishop said...
I wuz jus joshin' lostbean. Still a really icky image though...

June 19, 2006 4:33 PM


LOSTbean said...
GB-it is a scary site! :) no doubt about it!

June 19, 2006 5:17 PM


Jess said...
My LOST Season One came today. I am about to watch myself into a LOST-induced coma....Can't wait to catch some of the things I apparently missed the first two or three times I watched!

June 19, 2006 8:39 PM


bil-a-bong said...
GB, brilliant job as usual. I just decided to re-watch each episode along with your reviews. Too much L-O-S-T overload trying to do it all over vacation!

June 20, 2006 12:22 AM


LOSTbean said...
jess, so did you call in sick today so you could get caught up on LOST? or, are you watching it through your computer at work? ;o)

June 20, 2006 12:50 PM


Jess said...
LB--I am one of the lucky few who gets to stay home with the kids. When we relocated from Miami, I told my husband I didn't want to go back to work. A few months later, I got pregnant, and I've been a stay at home Mom ever since. He keeps asking when I'm going back to work, and I tell him I've officially retired! Of course, I don't really get sick days or vacation days, but this job does have a lot of perks. Once the kids were settled last night, I watched episodes 1-4. I would have watched more, but I knew that they would be getting me up early, so I had to get some sleep. I plan to do the same thing tonight. I can't wait for bedtime! (Their's, not mine.)

June 20, 2006 7:56 PM


LOSTbean said...
jess-being a f/t mom has to be the hardest job in the world...those of us with no kids and "normal" jobs have it easy! you are superwoman!

June 21, 2006 1:48 PM


Kat said...
Hi guys!
I've been very bad with my Lost watching... no time... Work is sucking the life out of me ;) Thank god for the recaps, GB... I am really hoping for an easy Sunday so that I can catch up to you guys! I've been a neglectful Lostie! My one comment: I find it interesting that in these beginning episodes, that the writers seemed to be building to a Michael/Sun/Jin triangle, but moved away quickly from that... and I doubt that it will show again seeing as Michael is a freak...

(Oh and GB, you weren't the only one with jealousy... Damn, Sawyer is hot...)

June 22, 2006 4:19 PM


Prettyeyes said...
OK....we all know that Sun attended an institute of higher learning... but exactly what did she study.. she seems some what knowledgable of the medical field and certainly has a green thumb...what else is she hiding....HMMMMMM

June 23, 2006 11:43 AM


Lady-in-Gray said...
Prettyeyes: Sun studied Art History in college. Also, many cultures (particularly Asians) know a lot about gardening and herbal remedies. It's we Americans who run to the store for just about everything. Other than her lack of a previous connection (so far) with any of the other Losties, I don't feel like she is hiding anything or in any way "unusual".

June 23, 2006 1:39 PM


Prettyeyes said...
ok I can go for that but there was also the needle made out of bamboo thing and maybe a couple of others I can't think of at the moment but I still think that there is more to her than we know... as so of many of our Losties. Time will tell.

June 23, 2006 9:57 PM


Lady-in-Gray said...
Prettyeyes: Now that Dr. Jack is going "home" with the Others, Sun may come in handy filling in for him. As long as no one needs brain surgery, that is!

June 23, 2006 10:16 PM


Prettyeyes said...
LOL.......Lady-in-Gray....I suppose she'll deliver her own baby also

June 23, 2006 11:22 PM


Lady-inGray said...
Prettyeyes: LOL. As slow as this show moves, we may have to wait about 7 seasons for the answer to that! Didn't Season 2 cover about 3 weeks?

June 23, 2006 11:35 PM


Prettyeyes said...
oh yeah... I forgot your right! Oh well look how much Walt grew in that time(wink,wink)

June 23, 2006 11:37 PM


Lady-in-Gray said...
Yeah. Kids have growth spurts at the darndest times!

It's been fun talking to you, but I'm getting sleepy. Goodnight, prettyeyes.

June 23, 2006 11:43 PM


Prettyeyes said...
goodnight Lady

June 23, 2006 11:46 PM


chuts said...
Greybishop

OMG!

I fell out of my chair laughing!

Sawyer was on the cover of a magazine and I happened to see it as I was cleaning the magazine rack at work.

My clothes fell off again! I was at work, surrounded by my co-workers, customers, homeless people looking in the windows...

It was embarrasing :}

Thanks for the laugh my good, good friend!

July 01, 2006 1:30 AM

Episodes 09 & 10

Lady-in-Gray said...
GB: Another great job! The "whispers" was a nice addition but I did miss the "songs"....

For those of us who haven't been on the EW board since Season 1, I need some clarification on what you mean by "island in a bottle". Are you referring to a self-contained, man-made environment such as Biosphere 2? Is the electromagnetic field the "container"?

June 25, 2006 10:39 AM


Greybishop said...
Lady-in-gray -
If there had been songs, I'd have done them. I like them too, although I must admit, they are usually the most time consuming element of the review. As to the island in a bottle, it's the fulcrum of my main theory. The whole thing is laid out towards the bottom of the main blog under "Greybishop's pet theories". I haven't altered them since they were originally posted, so I can use the post as a yardstick for how good or bad my theories were once the truth comes out. I haven't added it to them, but I do figure that the EM field, the button and the mechanical sounds that the great tree crusher makes are all directly related to the integrity of the "bottle". The EM field might be the container or it might be an open/close mechanism for a more "physical" hatch or doorway. I just don't know yet. The good news, for me at least, is that by doing these reviews I have been able to site some of the dialogue and events that lead me to the "Island in a bottle" theory...

June 25, 2006 11:14 AM


Lady-in-Gray said...
GB: I just read "Pet Theories,V3" and I am wondering if theories 3 and 5 could both be true (theory 5 could be the reason for theory 3).

I don't recall the weird tide event but, if I remember correctly, sinking in the sand at the beach as the waves roll in and out is normal. The cable is another matter, though. Could the island be "plugged in" from somewhere offshore or could something offshore (a sea lab, maybe) be "plugged in" from the island???

My theory about the "great tree crusher" is that it was built into the island to purposefully create a distraction from something else that Dharma doesn't want its inhabitants to see or know about. Have we actually seen any evidence of downed or damaged trees on the island?

June 25, 2006 12:22 PM


Greybishop said...
L-i-g -
The tidal event is in mid season. I think it happens around episode 12 or 13. All of a sudden, after 2 weeks or so of regular tidal action, the tide comes far enough up the beach that it washes most of the wreckage away. Odd, to say the least.
And, yes, my idea is sort of a theory 3 is the chosen environment for theory 5.
I suspect the cable is going to turn out to be very important. It's just too wierd and too totally ignored in season two not to be crucial.
Great tree pusher is another non-element in Season two and like many here, I'm not convinced that Mr. Smokey and Great Tree Pusher are one in the same. When Mr. Smokey shows, it seems to explode from the ground with some violence. We've also seen it sort of dart through the trees. No evidence yet of it pushing them aside like Great Tree Pusher seems to when we see it in episode 1. Like the possibility of more than one group of "Others"(, it is entirely possible that we only think we've see it, while there could be another entity or entities that have yet to be revealed.

June 25, 2006 10:41 PM


Lady-in-Gray said...
GB: I don't think that Smokey and the Tree Pusher are the same either. I feel that Smokey is a Protector of something. Locke felt safe with it and Eko just defied it. I'm just not sure what it is protecting but I'm leaning towards the island itself rather than Dharma.

June 25, 2006 11:47 PM


LOSTbean said...
so, what do we THINK the cable is about and exactly what is at each end of it? i guess i would've followed the cable into the water if i had scuba/diving gear and a boat. that seems of more interest to me than one that goes into the jungle, especially knowing the creepy things that live in the jungle. but i really am interested in that rope! any theories?

June 26, 2006 1:04 PM


Lady-in-Gray said...
LB: It's got to be a power cord or a trans-oceanic communications/telephone line. I'm pretty sure that in 1980 that was just about the only way to make an overseas phone call.

We know that Danielle knows about the cable because that's where she set her traps. I'm pretty sure that she and/or her team at least tried to find the source of the cable. I guess that's about all that we know about the cable at this point.

June 26, 2006 1:49 PM


LOSTbean said...
L-I-G...very interesting! i thought it was a ROPE, but it seems it is more of a CABLE. that makes it most interesting! do you think danielle knows what it's for, or just that it exists?

June 26, 2006 2:31 PM


Jess said...
OK, I wanted to go to Live Chat, but didn't see a link....Keep in mind that I am "computer challenged," so I am probably missing something very obvious.

June 26, 2006 4:18 PM


Greybishop said...
Jess -
It's on the right hand side, just below the "Archives" area.
I have no idea how well it works, but give it a whirl...

June 26, 2006 4:21 PM


Jess said...
GB, the link is not showing for me, but I will check back in a little while. I was supposed to be putting computer games on here for the kids, anyway :)

June 26, 2006 4:26 PM


Greybishop said...
Jess -
Are you using AOL as a browser?
Other folks have had trouble with that browser dealing with bravenet.com stuff.
Try firing up IE or Netscape and take another look...

June 26, 2006 4:38 PM


Lady-in-Gray said...
GB: Ok. I found the chat button but I'm not so sure that I want to use it. Does the conversation become a permanent part of the Blog the way these comments do? The permanence of these comments makes your Blog a useful reference tool while sorting out all things LOST.

I've never done a live chat, so this is all new to me.

June 26, 2006 4:39 PM


Greybishop said...
L-i-g -
Good question. I have no idea.
I'm at work, so chat's a no-no right now. I shouldn't even be doing this...
Give it a shot. Test it with something you don't mind having stick around and we'll figure out how it works...

June 26, 2006 4:53 PM


LOSTbean said...
is this chat button on YOUR site GB?

June 26, 2006 5:04 PM


Greybishop said...
LB -
It's there.
My boss just left. Hee Hee.
Lemme see what happens when I click it...

June 26, 2006 5:11 PM


Lady-in-Gray said...
LB: Go to the page with the recap for Eps 9 and 10. The chat button is the last thing in the right-hand column. It's NOT at the bottom of the page.

June 26, 2006 5:11 PM


Greybishop said...
I'm in there as we speak...

June 26, 2006 5:13 PM


Lady-in-Gray said...
GB: I can see your typing. I wrote something in the light blue box but I don't know how to "enter" it

June 26, 2006 5:20 PM


Greybishop said...
Well, I was there. Lady-in-gray showed up but didn't say anything.
At least I know that it allows more than one person in at a time.

June 26, 2006 5:21 PM


Greybishop said...
Ah.
Just type and hit "Enter" on the keyboard. There is no "enter" button.

June 26, 2006 5:22 PM


Lady-in-Gray said...
GB & c4l: Well, that was interesting! I did my first chat... I can see why the kids love it. My brain and fingers had trouble keeping up. I think I'll keep my serious Lost conversations over here, though.

June 26, 2006 5:43 PM


Jess said...
OK guys, I finally made it to the chat room and no one was there! I guess you are all at work. The weather is "iffy" right now, so the kids are painting and/or watching TV. I will try to pop in tonight when some of you are hopefully there.

June 27, 2006 1:56 PM


LOSTbean said...
I don't think it ever really "connected" that Locke had one white eye and one black eye. WOW!

June 27, 2006 4:54 PM


JESS said...
What if the psychic ISN'T a fraud? I know he told Eko he was, but maybe that was just to get the Church out of his business. His daughter did seem to know about Yemi, so maybe she also has "the gift." Just a thought....

Also, as they were breaking up, Thomas mentioned that Claire has "Daddy abandonment issues." I'm betting that she is Jack's half-sister.


The weird tide--maybe there was a storm surge???

July 09, 2006 1:33 AM


Greybishop said...
Jess -
We know, from episode 11 that the tide has been rising unnaturally fast since they first mentioned it in episode 10. According to Shannon, Boone and Locke have been all mysterious for 4 days now. So unless it's a 4 day storm surge with no storm, somethin's up.

July 09, 2006 10:29 PM


Jess said...
Hmm, storm surge but no storm. Despite having lived in Miami, I really don't know about stuff like that. I do know that when we vacation in North Carolina, the water sometimes comes up the beach so far that it is actually under the house. Could there be a storm out at sea, causing the water level to rise at the beach? As much as I enjoyed The Truman Show, I really hope that doesn't turn out to be the case with Lost.

July 10, 2006 10:11 AM


Lady-in-Gray said...
Jess: I pretty much posed the same question after the recap of Eps 11 and 12. My one opportunity to observe such a thing happened almost 40 years ago. I don't remember getting the storm, just the tide.

July 11, 2006 9:38 AM

Episodes 11 & 12

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LOSTbean said...
GB-brilliant!!!! as always!!!! and ~entertaining~ beyond words!

questions to follow........

July 08, 2006 7:39 PM


JESS said...
Good grief! I started laughing and couldn't stop! And who goes swimming in blue jeans??? That was SO unfair!


"Sawyer decides he needs to soak his sore knee, so he ditches his shirt, shoes and socks. There are any number of establishments where he would now be unable to get service.

Celeste Hutsonpillar's house is not one of them.

He convinces Kate to join him for a swim. Where he removed only his shirt, our heroine takes off her pants. There are any number of establishments where she would now be unable to get service.

My house is not one of them.

Cavorting ensues.

During their swim, the two survivors come upon another couple in the water, only these two are not so much cavorting as cadavering."

GB, how do you come up with these?

July 09, 2006 1:20 AM


JenMin said...
The scene where Kate takes off with the briefcase and Sawyer chases her is one of my favorite Kate-Sawyer moments.

I would love for the writers to explain how the case ended up under the plane seat even though it had been checked. Very mysterious.

Great review as always. Way more entertaining that EW's Scott Brown.

July 09, 2006 11:28 AM


Crazy4Lost said...
Great recap GB!!! Funny and entertaining as always!!

Thanks!

July 10, 2006 3:16 AM


Lady-in-Gray said...
Another great recap. Bravo!

I know that we discussed the weird tide before, but I remember an event many years ago that might shed light on that. I was living in an apartment that overlooked Galveston Bay. One morning we awoke to find that the tide had swamped the boat dock and was encroaching on the steps and sun-decks above the dock.

There was a hurricane in the Gulf of Mexico at the time. It was a few days offshore. The tide continued to rise and the hurricane eventually hit land about 160 or so miles south of us. All we got was some light rain and that dock and sun-deck swamping high tide.

I didn't live there more than a few months so I didn't really notice what the "normal" tide patterns were. Since Crazy4Lost lives on the Gulf Coast, maybe she pays a little more attention to such things than I did and can say if it's normal or not for a hurricane to cause unusually high tide when it's still hundreds of miles away.

Any ideas C4L?

July 10, 2006 11:30 PM


Jess said...
L-i-G, that's what I was getting at, but I also don't know much about tides and such. That was the most logical explanation I could come up with. Or, in keeping with Occam's Razor, the *simplest.*

July 11, 2006 3:59 PM


bil-a-bong said...
GB, Fantastic!

Your getting better all the time. This one was so good, I made my significant other read it!

(she laughed heartily, saying, yeah, this guy *is* pretty good..)

July 11, 2006 10:04 PM